Congress Between Consumers And Cheaper Gas

Last post 07-28-2008 8:30 PM by Soju. 15 replies.
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  • 07-21-2008 7:10 AM

    Congress Between Consumers And Cheaper Gas

    Responding to Americans' anger over gas prices and the housing bust, President Bush is stepping up pressure on Congress to open up offshore oil exploration and work to restore confidence in the housing finance industry.

    "This is a challenging time for families across our nation," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address. "I know many families are worried about rising prices at the pump and declining home values."

    Bush recently lifted an executive ban on offshore oil drilling. He said it's Congress' turn to act.

    "The only thing now standing between the American people and the vast oil resources of the Outer Continental Shelf is action from the United States Congress," he said.

    With soaring gas prices, public opinion on energy issues is shifting in favor of a more permissive stance on drilling, even though resistance remains to the idea of opening the Atlantic and Pacific coasts or the eastern Gulf off Florida's beaches to oil and gas companies.

    There is unrelenting GOP pressure to open up the Outer Continental Shelf to exploration, and Bush kept the pressure on during his radio broadcast. "The need for congressional action is urgent," he said. "The sooner Congress lifts the ban, the sooner we can get these resources from the ocean floor to the gas pump."

    Democrats say they have a different plan to combat record-high gas prices, but that Bush and the Republicans in Congress are blocking it. They argue that oil companies should drill in about 68 million acres of federal land they have already leased for such use — a move the Democrats say would nearly double U.S. production.

    They also want the president to tap into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve — a stockpile set aside for emergencies — and work with Democrats to crack down on Wall Street traders who are driving up oil prices by buying huge quantities of oil just to resell at a higher price.

    "I don't know what President Bush thinks, but four-and-a-half dollar-a-gallon gas is an emergency for America's families," Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., said Saturday in the Democratic radio address. "When was the last time the president filled his own tank?"

    Bush also addressed the public's concerns about the housing industry, which has been in a slump for more than two years. The industry is struggling to cope with record levels of unsold new and existing homes — a glut being expanded by rising foreclosures, which are dumping even more houses on the market.

    Buyers are reluctant to purchase a home with home prices still falling sharply and even those buyers who are ready to commit are having trouble qualifying for loans, as lenders tighten standards in response to soaring mortgage delinquencies.

    Banks and other financial institutions are struggling to cope with billions of dollars of losses on bad mortgages.

    The Bush administration and the Federal Reserve recently announced a support program for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to try to stave off serious troubles for the two mortgage giants, which hold or guarantee more than $5 trillion of the nation's mortgages — nearly half the total.

    Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is lobbying Congress for quick approval of a plan that would temporarily empower the government to extend unlimited lines of credit to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and to buy their stock, if needed, to bolster their reserves against losses. The companies' shares have plummeted because of fears about their financial stability.

    "I urge Congress to swiftly enact this plan into law," Bush said.

    All the housing and financial market turmoil has raised fears that the country could be pushed into a recession.

    Bush worked to ally those fears, saying the U.S. economy has demonstrated resilience.

    "Exports have continued to grow, productivity growth has remained strong, and while economic growth in the first quarter of this year was slower than we would have liked, it was growth, nonetheless," he said.

  • 07-21-2008 8:31 AM In reply to

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    HA-HA-HA. 

  • 07-21-2008 10:04 AM In reply to

    • Soju
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    Bush has a conflict of interest and the GOP is buying into it. LOL

    Stupid white Americans are going to allow more drilling when there is enough oil available. LOL

     

  • 07-21-2008 10:29 AM In reply to

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    Soju:

    Bush has a conflict of interest and the GOP is buying into it. LOL

    Stupid white Americans are going to allow more drilling when there is enough oil available. LOL

     

    Soju, you are thinking to short term, in another post BigNee and I discussed this issue, and the ENTIRE WORLD will run out of oil in about 40-50 years. NONE, ZIP, ZILCH. That means our dependency on natural gas and coal will sky-rocket and those to resources will disapear at an alarming rate. So, looking for oil now is our only option so that at the same time we can implement clean and renewable energies around the world, not just in the US.

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  • 07-21-2008 8:02 PM In reply to

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    DarksideoftheMoon:
    Soju, you are thinking to short term, in another post BigNee and I discussed this issue, and the ENTIRE WORLD will run out of oil in about 40-50 years. NONE, ZIP, ZILCH. That means our dependency on natural gas and coal will sky-rocket and those to resources will disapear at an alarming rate. So, looking for oil now is our only option so that at the same time we can implement clean and renewable energies around the world, not just in the US.

    Yup, I remember that conversation well......and you are correct. In another 40-50 years, we will have ZERO oil, and by that time, if we do not get rid of our dependence on fossil fuels, and by that time, develop alternative energy sources, we will end up beign stuck in the mud, so to speak. First oil will be gone, and then goal and gas, but they may go as quickly as oil, even though we may run out of oil first. If no alternative energy sources are developed by this time, then we will be in a pretty bad rut.  

  • 07-21-2008 9:35 PM In reply to

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    LOL countries like Brazil Iceland and Canada have put in place  Reagans vision of a hydrogen economy  and developed the infrastructure while dumb white Americans affiliated with oil companies convince americans gasoline consumption is intended for a long term strategy on energy. LOL stupid haha A long term strategy is protecting it's oil deposits, increasing reserves and encouragin private investment toward Hydrogen bridges like hybrid cars fuel cells and so forth. LOL haha stupid white America is so motivated by instant gratification that they buy into oil drilling ahahah. There is no vision when all there is to rely on is consuming what you got just because you got it when you know you wont have it for long. Hahaha look at how Brazil is rising; they got the hydrogen plan set and now have oil to spare, lol meanwhile the japanese make superior cars that run longer hahaha, more oil wont save whats left of the manufacturing economy, lol hahaha when GM and Ford are closing plants that also means glass makes rubber factories plastics also close their doors lol and  then they move to brazil canada and japan hahaha. 

  • 07-22-2008 9:34 AM In reply to

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    SoJu, Japan is one of the top three oil consuming countries in the world. And as for Canada and Brazil being a hydrogen based society, there is no country in the world that will not be devestated due to oil extinction; granted they may be cleaner countries but i tell you now, if America tanks, the whole world tanks. So don't think you are better than us and try to take credit for other people in other generations of you country have done. You are no different that any one of us, trying to get by day to day while we have no control over what happens in the big picture of our country.

  • 07-23-2008 10:23 PM In reply to

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    You must have thought you were responding to a rational person. Fooled you

  • 07-23-2008 10:38 PM In reply to

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    I'm not saying I'm better then us Im saying they are better then us and yes the world economy is reliant on America and America has the responsibility to the world to come up with abetter plan then digging more holes so it can continue consuming what everyone produces for the insatiable. 

  • 07-24-2008 9:14 AM In reply to

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    stupid soju.....stupid stupid soju 

  • 07-24-2008 4:08 PM In reply to

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    AMEN to that tatertots_mama !

  • 07-24-2008 5:23 PM In reply to

    • Soju
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    I know I'm stupid, doesn't mean you gotta be stupid enough to believe the democrats are going to lift the moratorium on exploration and that gas prices wont go back up in the fall. LOL One thing you can count on is that oil will go up regardless of supply because there is already an over supply; you can spend the money to dig more holes but when it takes more money to get the crude out you aint gonna have a hydrogen infrastructure that's going to let you keep prices down. The real money is in selling the product not consuming it hahahaha.  

  • 07-24-2008 6:30 PM In reply to

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    Soju:
    I'm not saying I'm better then us Im saying they are better then us and yes the world economy is reliant on America and America has the responsibility to the world to come up with abetter plan then digging more holes so it can continue consuming what everyone produces for the insatiable. 

    For once, I 100% agree with Soju here......drilling more oil only keeps us dependent on oil, even though we get rid of our dependence on foreign oil. We need to get rid of our dependency on oil and fossil fuels.......period. It is our dependency on foriegn oil that is causing us trouble. The sooner we can get rid of our dependency on fossil fuels, such as oil, gas etc... the better off we will be in the long-term. Our dependency/addiction will be the cause of our downfall, and so the sooner we can stop drilling for oil and think of better ways to produce energy, the better off we will be. Drilling more oil and staying depending on oil. even though it is not foreign oil, is not the route we should continue down.     

  • 07-25-2008 8:47 AM In reply to

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     Drilling for more oil is not going to do anything to lower the price of gas, regulating the speculators in the commodity markets is the problem, the drop in the price of oil on the spot market has proven that in the last week.

    Soju Brazil does not run on hydrogen they use soybean by products for fuel, hydrogen cars are still in the experimental stage and it won't be perfected for mass consumption for another 10 years or so, as for the electric car this also has some issues still to be addressed, like the life expectency of batteries, and the cost to replace them.

    All this new technology, solar, wind and hydrogen is still in its infancy and there are many problems with the cost and reliability of these technologies. 

    The real problem today is the speculators, weather its on oil, food or anything else, these people who trade these contracts have gotten out of control because of poor regulation and greed. 

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